it's been decided and nancy pelosi is only bothering the president. where he gets the idea that we can raise revenue without raising the rates and have that acceptable, i have no clue. but nancy pelosi and the president are reading from the same page. >> so how confident are you a deal is going to get done and, if so, when? >> well, a deal has to be done. what kind of a deal is going to be done? first of all, this guy is not going to fall by the end of the year. it's how much do we really accomplish instead of putting everything into next year. we can't do reform between now and the end of the year. that's where most of the problems are going to exist. if we're going to improve our involvement here, we can't do it this year. acting in an emergency situation if we cooperate and everybody gives a little bit to get us past this, we can and will do a job. >> let me ask you this because what i think a lot of voters hear is not so much we're going to do something to keep us off the fiscal cliff now so we can get the important details done later, they hear t